the federal gas tax has been capped around 17 cents a gallon. drivers from the northeast to the midwest don't need a reminder how bad our roads can be. the drivers $6.5 billion. jonathan, how about those potholes, do you have a view on that? >> i like to avoid them. >> i'm anti-potholes, too. >> that's all the time we have. it was nice having you on. >> thank you, ari, i appreciate it. >> $300 billion over four years. put aside the skepticism about getting anything done in washington. walk us through you there at the white house what you know about this and the plan. >> well, i think what you've got is the president again trying to get congress, trying to get the government to invest in infrastructu infrastructure. this is something he's been trying to do for several years. not just invest in it, invest in it ahead of time so as anthony fox, the transportation secretary said earlier today, you don't continue to put band aids on for the nation's highways and other infrastructure. that's what we've been doing to borrow a term for the show. there's